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	<description>Blacksmith, Metal Fabrication, Sculpture, and Fire Art</description>
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		<title>By: Snow-Motor - Maine (ME) - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snow-Motor - Maine (ME) - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think the reason it wasn&#039;t mass produced was it came out around 1924/26.  http://vimeo.com/2638558  http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=1298  Not many motorized cars/tractors then and transportation would have been a severe &quot;female [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think the reason it wasn&#39;t mass produced was it came out around 1924/26.  <a href="http://vimeo.com/2638558" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/2638558</a>  <a href="http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=1298" rel="nofollow">http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=1298</a>  Not many motorized cars/tractors then and transportation would have been a severe &quot;female [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=1298&#038;cpage=1#comment-3746</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts thanks. I keep delaying making this because of the lack of space to use it in. I live in the city and I hate to make something I can only off road in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts thanks. I keep delaying making this because of the lack of space to use it in. I live in the city and I hate to make something I can only off road in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these things.  Great project idea! I can&#039;t wait to see it.  

   I was around when they built one of these on Junkyard Wars.  (It failed in part because of a bum hydraulic pump.)  Using rubber isn&#039;t going to work because all that friction is counter to how  these things work.  (With higher friction rubber in order to get it to turn you&#039;d need a ton more power all going into fighting the other spirals motion, tearing off your drive spiral, and straining your drive/suspension, non of it going into driving your device forward.)

The trick is to make the whole spiral as smooth and sleek as possible so there&#039;s not much friction against the rotation, and more of the power goes into the forward/back drive.  If you have too much friction you can rev and rev all you want to but you never go anywhere.

Take care choosing your pitch/spiral height to work with the target material.  (the playa)  More aggressive pitch means more stress on the drive train and spiral.  If the spiral is too high (tall) it&#039;ll be unable to turn in the playa and will tear itself off. Trying to make it work on lots of different materials is going to be much much harder then trying to tune for just one.

A cab is good because if the a spiral starts to come off it flogs the passengers.  :]  (I guess you can choose a rotation direction where it flogs the undercarriage instead for forward motion.)  

For playa I wouldn&#039;t choose a single perpendicular spiral strip.  (too easy to bend/tear off)  Much better to use an inverted V shape (or even maybe a 90 deg V) so both legs are welded down.  For Playa you won&#039;t need a lot of penetration, so you might even just be able to use stock small sized angle iron. 

Sorry I&#039;m just thinking out loud.   blah blah blah.

Good luck with this project.  I loved the Snail Car, and I can&#039;t wait to see this come to life!

   -Kurt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these things.  Great project idea! I can&#8217;t wait to see it.  </p>
<p>   I was around when they built one of these on Junkyard Wars.  (It failed in part because of a bum hydraulic pump.)  Using rubber isn&#8217;t going to work because all that friction is counter to how  these things work.  (With higher friction rubber in order to get it to turn you&#8217;d need a ton more power all going into fighting the other spirals motion, tearing off your drive spiral, and straining your drive/suspension, non of it going into driving your device forward.)</p>
<p>The trick is to make the whole spiral as smooth and sleek as possible so there&#8217;s not much friction against the rotation, and more of the power goes into the forward/back drive.  If you have too much friction you can rev and rev all you want to but you never go anywhere.</p>
<p>Take care choosing your pitch/spiral height to work with the target material.  (the playa)  More aggressive pitch means more stress on the drive train and spiral.  If the spiral is too high (tall) it&#8217;ll be unable to turn in the playa and will tear itself off. Trying to make it work on lots of different materials is going to be much much harder then trying to tune for just one.</p>
<p>A cab is good because if the a spiral starts to come off it flogs the passengers.  :]  (I guess you can choose a rotation direction where it flogs the undercarriage instead for forward motion.)  </p>
<p>For playa I wouldn&#8217;t choose a single perpendicular spiral strip.  (too easy to bend/tear off)  Much better to use an inverted V shape (or even maybe a 90 deg V) so both legs are welded down.  For Playa you won&#8217;t need a lot of penetration, so you might even just be able to use stock small sized angle iron. </p>
<p>Sorry I&#8217;m just thinking out loud.   blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Good luck with this project.  I loved the Snail Car, and I can&#8217;t wait to see this come to life!</p>
<p>   -Kurt</p>
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		<title>By: Handstalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handstalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re offical on my top favorite for technology.
I was wondering, with that vechile, can you digging down and arrive China? (*joking*) But seriously, that ideas was really amazing! wooow! If suppose use Oil driller, You&#039;d be going from west coast to east coast within 3-5 days or a snap if the engine are faster than a airplane engine itself. 
Beside that, Let&#039;s talking about WATER try with something that can float and a boat engine that will swimming on the top surface or a helipilotor for the air. .. I would say.. it look like a DILDO but interior you will be not turning You&#039;ll be like I&#039;m drilling a *&amp;$%#! *laughing* 
Well I want to say You got fucking great machine! Rock it on!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re offical on my top favorite for technology.<br />
I was wondering, with that vechile, can you digging down and arrive China? (*joking*) But seriously, that ideas was really amazing! wooow! If suppose use Oil driller, You&#8217;d be going from west coast to east coast within 3-5 days or a snap if the engine are faster than a airplane engine itself.<br />
Beside that, Let&#8217;s talking about WATER try with something that can float and a boat engine that will swimming on the top surface or a helipilotor for the air. .. I would say.. it look like a DILDO but interior you will be not turning You&#8217;ll be like I&#8217;m drilling a *&#038;$%#! *laughing*<br />
Well I want to say You got fucking great machine! Rock it on!!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On hold while I build an 85 foot long Zeppelin</description>
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		<title>By: Donald Bolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Bolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your status on building this project?  Would love to see it being built.

Alliance, NE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your status on building this project?  Would love to see it being built.</p>
<p>Alliance, NE</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made it from from congo blue, more info is on the very bottom of the blog page. Mostly changed the colors.
Thanks I try to post about things I do, want to do, or how. Great to know people like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made it from from congo blue, more info is on the very bottom of the blog page. Mostly changed the colors.<br />
Thanks I try to post about things I do, want to do, or how. Great to know people like it.</p>
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		<title>By: mssmotorrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mssmotorrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 12:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s the first time I commented here and I must say you share us genuine, and quality information for bloggers! Good job. 
p.s. You have a very good template for your blog. Where did you find it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the first time I commented here and I must say you share us genuine, and quality information for bloggers! Good job.<br />
p.s. You have a very good template for your blog. Where did you find it?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=1298&#038;cpage=1#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand your post/comment, do you have a website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand your post/comment, do you have a website?</p>
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		<title>By: Bradd Obrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradd Obrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have look on ebay but if you want one I could build you one. I build all kinds of farm toys to sell them you can email me at the email that is listed thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have look on ebay but if you want one I could build you one. I build all kinds of farm toys to sell them you can email me at the email that is listed thank you</p>
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